WINDSOR CHARTER TOWNSHIP PLANNING COMMISSION

REGULAR MEETING - JANUARY 11, 2006

MEETING ROOM - 7:00 P.M.

 

 

Public Hearing for Dimond Way LLC rezoning request for the northwest corner of Holt and M-99 was called to order by Chairperson Dave Kubicek.

Present: Kubicek, Borucki, Blair, Burton, Johnson, Marsh, Pray

Absent: none

Also present: Jim Foulds, CPS

 

Chairperson Kubicek explained that this is a request to rezone from A-1 to B-2 (commercial) of approximately 45 acres.  He read the uses by right in a B-2 zone.

 

Pat Lundberg 5358 Bailey Rd asked what the Master Plan showed for this area.  The answer is Ag/Rural Residential.

 

Dan McCabe, agent for Dimond Way LLC of 4677 Dimond Way stated that they do not have a specific plan at this time, only preliminary which they presented a larger copy to the Commission.  He also stated that they have requested that the Master Plan be revisited and amended before acting on their request.  He stated that they would like to develop it like a town center all the way to the village.  They have contacted the owner of the 95 acres, which could be tied into this project.

 

Mike Mayotte 204 Adams, GL asked if this public hearing was for a master plan change or rezoning? He also asked if the rezoning and master plan change would take place at the same time.

 

Jim Foulds of CPS stated that this is a public hearing for the rezoning application as the applicant has outlined.  The question is should the planning commission look at the master plan.  They can do one of two things tonight.  They can table the request/look at the plan/report/rezone or could act on the rezoning tonight.

 

Mike Mayotte stated that this is a large track of land and it would change the character of the surrounding area.  It would also have a large impact on the area.  His in-laws are directly to the north and they can not be here tonight so he is representing them.  They are not necessarily in opposition to the change but he knows that whatever can go in B-2 could enter that area. There are many considerations when dealing with the master plan and changing this to commercial could have adverse effect on the area.

 

Floyd Conklin 10540 Holt Rd asked how many acres we were discussing as the application is for 40 acres and tonight he talked about an additional 95 acres.

 

Dan McCabe repeated that he would like this request tabled tonight. 

 

Floyd Conklin asked if MDOT had been consulted.  McCabe stated yes and that the developer would cover all the cost of improvements to M-99 due to additional traffic.

 

Doug VanEpps 4755 Dimond Way asked if hearing also included additional 95 acres? No Kubicek stated that this is the Public Hearing for the original request.

 

Danial Taracks 10441 Holt Hwy stated that he is the owner of 5 acres in the middle of the 95 acres and he had not been contacted.  He stated that the master plan must be reviewed before rezoning.

 

Mike Chappell 136 Cherry asked if planning commission is going to table tonight? If so, would there be another public hearing.  What will happen is not known until the commission goes into regular meeting per Kubicek.

 

Carol Finton 5488 Bailey Rd stated that she was raised here and has now moved back and she has two concerns: 1. The environment and covering of green space.  2. Traffic flow and making another dangerous intersection like the one near her home.

 

Keith Gulliver 10218 Holt Hwy stated that changing from A-1 to B-2 is a big jump for a large section of land. There is no infrastructure in the area.  He stated he could see maybe 300' back from M-99 being rezoned.

 

Ralph Reznick 316 E Washington expressed concern over the impact on the village and the process.  He stated that the master plan needs to be looked at all along M-99 and the entire township.  He feels more commercial will hurt the village businesses.  Lansing Road, which has commercial development, is not developed and he does not feel the time is right to add more. 

 

Doug VanEpps questioned the legal standing of Dimond Way LLC. They are not a registered company in Texas so no legal grounds to represent.  Changing without looking at master plan sets a precedent for future rezoning.  The area commercial market studies show 18.3 % vacancy in the area and south end of Lansing 34% vacancy of existing buildings.  There is a greater need for more homes and that 25% more homes for sale per the Lansing State Journal.  He stated that River Run has 5 homes for sale.  If you want to know what this would look like developed look at Okemos Road and Jolly Road.  ICRC can tell how much that has increased traffic in that area.  ECRC states that 11500 cars per day on M-99.  This needs to have process, analysis and discussion.

 

Brian Adler 561 Creyts stated that the Master Plan was done in the 90's and amended in 2002.  Need to look at Waverly & M-99 and that the Vermontville change are not documented. Also that SLDC is not on the map.  He has concerns that B-2 opens up a lot of possibilities and they will deviate from the plan and need to talk to the village.  Also concern over the objectives on page 8-9.

 

Mike Mayotte asked if township board holds a public hearing when it gets to them? No

 

Mike Chappell stated he thinks it is hard to talk about a rezoning if it is going to tabled.   It should be tabled - review master plan and then hold another public hearing.

 

Floyd Conklin asked what school district?  Eaton Rapids. What about water & sewer?

 

Dan McCabe he has met with Delhi and they are willing to bring sewer from Holt and Waverly Road and that Board of Water & Light would bring water from M-99 and Waverly. He also stated that Dimond Way LLC is registered in Michigan and just the mailing address is in Texas.  The sewer would be forced main to there and then gravity. This would need agreements with Windsor Township but the developers would be paying all the costs without any assessments.

 

McCabe asked Supervisor to confirm that this meeting has taken place.  St. Clair stated that they had met with Delhi and they were willing to service the property but township board would have to discuss it.  They had approached us about boarder property but no interest as much of that land was in PA 116.

 

Carol Finton stated that until all the t's are crossed and I's dotted that they would be paying all the costs nothing should be done.

 

Doug VanEpps asked why he wanted this project?  McCabe stated that it would bring more services and offices to the area.  The town center idea would offer trails, bike and hiking paths.  They have done market analysis and it was positive.  This area could have loft apartments and it is near the village where Lansing Road commercial is not.  He stated that he would be open to smaller B-2 area for preliminary.  He feels that we need medical offices in the area.

 

Carol Finton stated that the jury is still out on effectiveness of town centers.  Condos are high ended and not good for Dimondale.

 

Dan Taracks asked about time line.  McCabe stated 2-3 years for roads and utilities but that master plan comes first.

 

Stephen Wilcox business owner in Village stated that retail outside would not help the village but be more negative.

 

Mike Chappell stated that he thinks the applicant should withdraw his request.  McCabe repeated that he would like it tabled.

 

Glenn Harr business owner in the Village stated that he favors businesses in the Village and that growth is coming.  We need to learn from other areas that have had growth positive and negative and do it right.  We need growth to survive but do not favor open ended. We need smart growth that will help the businesses.

 

Public Hearing closed at 7:50 PM.

Three-minute recess held.

 

The regular meeting was convened at 7:53 PM.

 

There were no public comments.

 

Minutes of previous meeting were approved.

 

Blair gave report from Board of Trustees and Sewer Board.

 

DIMOND WAY LLC REZONING REQUEST:

 

Kubicek stated that we have heard the public comments and he asked Foulds to give his report.  Foulds stated that: 1.Planning Commission can table the rezoning request until the next meeting giving them time to prepare a Fact Finding with input from Public Hearing.  Then they would have report with specific recommendations.

2. At the next meeting they can review the specific recommendations on amending the Master Plan, which are not driven by the rezoning request.  They are two separate issues.

 

Foulds continued to state that they could revisit the Master Plan and co-ordinate with the village for joint plan.  If don't work together there can be many problems which lead to 425's and annexation.

 

Kubicek stated that we have to revisit the master plan at least every 5 years.  Foulds stated that this is the most important thing a planning commission does for final decisions. The last time it was reviewed was for the northern portion for the Industrial due to GM plant. 

 

Blair stated that we have to look at area around the Secondary Complex also.

 

Borucki moved and Johnson seconded to table the rezoning request application until the next meeting to make a recommendation.  Carried unanimously.

 

In reference to master plan Foulds stated that there would be a recommendation that will include the village.

 

GOALS FOR 2006:

 

Kubicek read the 2005 goals and Blair stated that all are current.  They discussed adding that each member attend a neighboring community meeting and share back with group.

 

Borucki moved and Blair seconded to add attending a neighboring meeting as a goal for 2006.  Carried unanimously.

 

ZONING ORDINANCE CHANGES:

 

Clerk shared what they have ready for public hearing and which are close.  Clerk will work with township board to pass posting ordinance that reduces some of the large printing costs.

 

TRAINING - PART 3:

 

Due to the length of the public hearing Foulds only handed out two articles to be read for next month.

 

With no further business Borucki moved and Johnson seconded to adjourn the meeting. Carried unanimously.  Adjourned at 8:22 PM

 

 

                                                            Linda Towsley, Clerk